Quotes

I've never really been afraid of how people were going to define me, as long as I didn't write some cheaper song because people like that I'm depressed.

People still kind of think of me as like a folk artist, but on the first record, I truly was deferring to other people to produce me. I basically had these country folk songs. [On the new record] I do a little bit of screaming on what we've recorded so far.

Don't be afraid to make weird choices. Think of Billie Eilish and Björk. You can't copy them, but you can do something that's no one has ever heard before, like they did when they started.

I think about songs like dreams. They're kind of about one person, but also sort of this other person, and then they turn into my second grade teacher and then I'm falling off a cliff and then it's over.

I can honestly say my friends are my biggest influences. Conor Oberst has been an influence of mine for a long time, and of course more so now that we're in a band together.